But many researchers have reached a conclusion that turns conventional wisdom on its head: Americans enjoy less economic mobility than their peers in Canada and much of Western Europe. The mobility gap has been widely discussed in academic circles, but a sour season of mass unemployment and street protests has moved the discussion toward center stage.
Former Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, a Republican candidate for president, warned this fall that movement “up into the middle income is actually greater, the mobility in Europe, than it is in America.” National Review, a conservative thought leader, wrote that “most Western European and English-speaking nations have higher rates of mobility.” Even Representative Paul D. Ryan, a Wisconsin Republican who argues that overall mobility remains high, recently wrote that “mobility from the very bottom up” is “where the United States lags behind.”
Liberal commentators have long emphasized class, but the attention on the right is largely new.
“It’s becoming conventional wisdom that the U.S. does not have as much mobility as most other advanced countries,” said Isabel V. Sawhill, an economist at the Brookings Institution. “I don’t think you’ll find too many people who will argue with that.”
One reason for the mobility gap may be the depth of American poverty, which leaves poor children starting especially far behind. Another may be the unusually large premiums that American employers pay for college degrees. Since children generally follow their parents’ educational trajectory, that premium increases the importance of family background and stymies people with less schooling.
At least five large studies in recent years have found the United States to be less mobile than comparable nations. A project led by Markus Jantti, an economist at a Swedish university, found that 42 percent of American men raised in the bottom fifth of incomes stay there as adults. That shows a level of persistent disadvantage much higher than in Denmark (25 percent) and Britain (30 percent) — a country famous for its class constraints.
Meanwhile, just 8 percent of American men at the bottom rose to the top fifth. That compares with 12 percent of the British and 14 percent of the Danes.
Despite frequent references to the United States as a classless society, about 62 percent of Americans (male and female) raised in the top fifth of incomes stay in the top two-fifths, according to research by the Economic Mobility Project of the Pew Charitable Trusts. Similarly, 65 percent born in the bottom fifth stay in the bottom two-fifths.
By emphasizing the influence of family background, the studies not only challenge American identity but speak to the debate about inequality. While liberals often complain that the United States has unusually large income gaps, many conservatives have argued that the system is fair because mobility is especially high, too: everyone can climb the ladder. Now the evidence suggests that America is not only less equal, but also less mobile.
John Bridgeland, a former aide to President George W. Bush who helped startOpportunity Nation, an effort to seek policy solutions, said he was “shocked” by the international comparisons. “Republicans will not feel compelled to talk about income inequality,” Mr. Bridgeland said. “But they will feel a need to talk about a lack of mobility — a lack of access to the American Dream.”
While Europe differs from the United States in culture and demographics, a more telling comparison may be with Canada, a neighbor with significant ethnic diversity. Miles Corak, an economist at the University of Ottawa, found that just 16 percent of Canadian men raised in the bottom tenth of incomes stayed there as adults, compared with 22 percent of Americans. Similarly, 26 percent of American men raised at the top tenth stayed there, but just 18 percent of Canadians.
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Gold has bounced off of the 1555 level and looks like a buy to me before it is back to 1700.00
Silver still appears to be going nowhere other than the one day it was up. Mammoth are you seeing people selling? I see nothing here in Orlando worth my interest.
Dr. Stephen Leeb disagrees with me. Keep in mind this is KWN and Eric King only allows bullish PM guests on his show.
http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2012/1/6_Dr._Stephen_Leeb.html
I truly agree with many experts that the the miners are way oversold and ripe for the picking.
I hate to disagree with 'experts' but I see lots more 'education' and a lot less common sense!
I've been through Head Start, RIF, and many other programs. The education needed is not just in schooling but in manners and life skills. A friend is getting a mortgage from BOA and was recently told 'My bad' on the phone after the person in charge messed something up.
My bad?
This from a so-called professional business person?
In my day even applying for a janitor job meant wearing a business suit with a type resume, clean appearance, and professional attitude. But I guess you don't need that any more when you have the internet.
As for the 'American' dream. Why American? Don't Canadians dream? Or Europeans? Or Asians? I have yet to meet any parent who doesn't dream of a better world or life for their children. You can dream all you want. It's time we began telling people that hard work and LUCK help to make dreams come true. IF I hear one more commentator saying YOU CAN ACHIEVE EVERYTHING YOU DREAM OF like a mantra I'll puke. You can work hard, pay your dues, and still not achieve your dreams. And not all of us get to 'do a job we love' because WE have to survive. My hubby didn't 'love' his job. His motto is, "I work to live; I don't live to work."
Ah well, another life has ended as his aunt has passed. Another day, another funeral. As Ben said, nothing certain but death and taxes ;-)
queen- found a job for you. CONSUMER PROTECTION AGENCY--and people wonder why we are TRILLIONS in debt???!!!! I predict MORE of these types of jobs, too. Note they are for 1 or 2 years--just to get reelcted.
http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/306225500.
Wait till you see the benfits.
Anyone have an opinion about the move up in gold?
CL said "As for the 'American' dream. Why American? Don't Canadians dream? Or Europeans? Or Asians?" I am sure they do, but we live in America and I am not sure what defines the American Dream or any other dream for that fact. Live a happy life, find your own faith and die at peace. It cannot be about buying a home, providing a college education for you children and fading off into the sunset in you golden years. It just doesn't happen.
depends on the american. compare martin Luther King and Dick Fuyld for your homework assignment.
re gold, my only opinion re the move up is that the chart is still medium term bearish. nothing in the longer-term chart yet to get excited about ... yet
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$GOLD&p=W&yr=3&mn=0&dy=0&id=p76047698763
you might want to buy some for a risk hedge, as if any fireworks erupt in the Middle East it should move up fast...
The US $ is very strong now and could be on a primary uptrend that could last for a while...at least until Europe finishes imploding, which will be many months yet
So that will act to suppress the US $ gold price, absent a real crisis. Hard to say what will drive the herd to buy gold again, it needs a new storyline for the year, like Straits of ......
As to miners vs metal, the miners have disappointed for years, but I think it requires economic expansion to drive demand and prices, and we are seeing that model slow down now.
Potash shut a mine for a month, there are said to be record stockpiles of most metals, surplus oil on the market... the world is temporarily awash in many resources.
From a macro perspective, it seems to be a bad time to be in miners. Gold miners, maybe, silver still mostly comes from copper mines, which won't be so busy now. So there may be some favorable fundamentals.
GAW makes a good point about the strength of the USD and the gold price. Aganist a currency that's been weak recently, like the euro, the gold chart doesn't look too bad:
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GLD:FXE&p=W&yr=3&mn=0&dy=0&id=p85398912161
Not great, but not terrible, and not despecially bearish
That's not much consolation if you're in USD,except to say that there's not a massive run out of gold with respect to all cuurencies.
headline this morning out of MN about diamond prices rising.
Who was it on here who just posted about diamonds? Again, you have to KNOW the quality but diamonds have always been a small piece of insurance, easily hidden and transported. According to article since Indian and the East are gaining a great middle class, they are increasingly buying diamonds. Me, I prefer rubies and emeralds....
Here's a good human-angle article on greece ...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/8998359/Proud-but-powerless-the-Greece-that-I-love.html
The comments are also very interesting for their diversity
Talking of the euro vs dollar, i think the euro is due at least a bounce soon. The dollar is over-extended. Not saying that its reached its high yet, but it's certainly due a breather in short order, I think
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