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A similar article posted over at Jesse's Cafe. I just want this to be more than a needle in a haystack. I think it is important for gold.
By Edmond Lococo and Christopher Donville
Sept. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Barrick Gold Corp., the world’s largest gold producer, plans to record $5.6 billion in third- quarter costs to eliminate fixed-price contracts as the company bets that prices for the precious metal will climb.
As of yesterday, the company had gold sales contracts for 9.5 million ounces of gold, which had a mark-to-market position of negative $5.6 billion, Toronto-based Barrick said today in a statement. To fund some of the costs, Barrick agreed to sell 81.2 million shares at a price of $36.95 per share for proceeds of $3 billion, the company said.
Barrick has “an increasingly positive outlook on the gold price,” the company said in the statement. Gold today rose to the highest price since March 2008, topping $1,000 an ounce, as the slumping dollar and inflation concerns boosted the metal’s appeal to investors.
“If you believe the U.S. dollar is going to weaken, this makes a lot of sense for Barrick,” Andrew C. Parkinson, who helps manage the equivalent of $19 million at Van Arbor Asset Management in Vancouver, said today in a phone interview. “To close all your hedges is really taking a strong, one-sided position.”
Gold today reached as high as $1,009.70 in New York, within 3 percent of the record $1,033.90 in March 2008. Gold futures for December delivery rose $3.10, or 0.3 percent, to $999.80 on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange. The metal has climbed 13 percent this year.
‘Confidence’
“The fact that the world’s largest gold producer is shedding some of it’s hedging contracts displays a degree of confidence that is found primarily in speculators, not producers looking to hedge,” said Ralph Preston, an analyst at Heritage West Futures Inc. in San Diego. “This is extremely bullish for gold.”
About $1.9 billion of the proceeds from Barrick’s share sale will be used to eliminate all fixed-price gold contracts in the next 12 months, and $1 billion will eliminate a portion of its floating spot-price contracts, the company said.
Barrick’s effort to protect itself against a drop in bullion prices has led to clashes with investors as metal prices gained. In March, the company said it agreed to pay $24 million to settle a lawsuit in which investors claimed the company misled them by saying the hedging program wouldn’t hurt profits.
For the rest of the article go here: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a_Rt2xgQeWvY
From Jesse's Cafe:
Barrick Gold and their bullion bank partner J.P. Morgan were the target of lawsuits by the gold bulls, most recently Blanchard and Company, for price manipulation through the use of forward sales in their hedge book. The contention was that the selling was being used to manipulate the price of gold.
Barrick's initial defense was that if they were acting in conjunction with the central banks, they were therefore immune from prosecution since the central banks are immune from prosecution. Details of that story are here. The public document that Blanchard had put forward was shocking in its implications indeed, and can be seen here.
Barrick's initial defense was that if they were acting in conjunction with the central banks, they were therefore immune from prosecution since the central banks are immune from prosecution. Details of that story are here. The public document that Blanchard had put forward was shocking in its implications indeed, and can be seen here.
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I know this was yesterday's news on Jesse's Cafe, but I am posting another take on the Barrick's hedge covering as I want there to be more than article on Jesse's Cafe that fades into oblivion.
Makes you wonder has the price of gold been artificially kept down? I post you decide. Now that gold has touched the 1000 number and retreated can it go even higher? Will it take silver with it?
I am looking at prices on Gainesville coins now at 1026.00 retail which is only 35.00 over spot.
"On Tuesday, Fairfield Greenwich agreed to pay $8 million to settle a complaint by the Secretary of State that it misrepresented its relationship with Madoff to investors. The firm did not admit nor deny guilt."
from
http://www.cnbc.com/id/32767249
This is fundamentally what is wrong with America, and perhaps elsewhere in the world, a corrupt organization can agree to a settlement and thus not admit any guilt and avoid criminal charges against individuals. So, next individual plays the same game, makes their money, and on goes the cycle. Only the "shareholders" suffer the consequences because dividends will be lower due to the cost of settlements. Not that I have any sympathy for shareholders today; they're the most unfaithful whores of the modern commercial world.
This just adds the the nonesense after the Pfizer 2 plus billion dollar settlement. Why would any "real" shareholder want anything to do with this kinda shite giong on all the time?
I think Nathan has a good take on the MIC and a short video if you are interested.
http://economicedge.blogspot.com/2009/09/carlyle-group-military-industrial.html
The Barrick hedges were legacy, in place from when gold was well below $320/oz - IIRC Jim Sinclair's comment years back to Barrick CEO about the hedges and the price of gold was something like "At $320 Barrick is in trouble, at $354 YOU will be in trouble" (more or less)
It seems the hedges will be unwound and settled in ca$h, so the 'market' move off of this one will probably not be substantial. If they really were covering a massive short like that by buying the physical gold, the price would have done a real moonshot, like +$200 or something in one day, at a wild guess - not happening.
Much ado about nothing, it seems. Points out how badly Barrick was run, and it affects their share price. Other miners with similar hedges will likely do the same, which will hit their share prices too. Miners with no hedges are probably not impacted much either way, except to prove maybe they had smarter managers. It seems most people don't see gold going back down below $400 anytime soon. Boy, what a surprise.
This will remove a lot of the "structural" shorts in the gold market, which the GATA types have been yelling about for years. I don't see anything criminal about a large miner having some big hedges, myself, however badly managed. This goes to the heart of the debate about whether the massive 'shorts' in precious metals were legitimate or not. If Barrick as a producer placed the 'shorts' to hedge production, then they are not placed by the "manipulators" (aka 'Bullion Banks') - if the "manipulators" placed and held these positions for their own accounts, that would be a real manipulation, given their role as 'market makers'.
I have to make a distinction between companies in the business with a legitimate interest in seeing the price within certain limits, and manipulation designed to "control" a market for the sole interest of the controller. The definition of "manipulation" is in the eyes of the beholder.
I give GATA little credence. Most of their arguments are hogwash IMHO. Goldbugs will disagree. C'est la vie. Just my opinion.
'Anonymous' - Are you the same Anon as the previous comment? Please pick a 'name', it gets too confusing with different commenters using the same name.
Ummm, Mish is not a "moron". He was in fact one of the earliest Bloggers, 5+ years ago to predict every turn of this financial crisis correctly, and was massively abused by Bulls for years for his calls.
You may disagree with his positions on this or that, I certainly have and I have taken him on in the comments there when everyone else there was in fanboy agreement with his every word. But there is no way on this earth I would insult him for his stance on anything economic. I just have too much respect for him.
I'm sorry, but your comment indicates who the moron is, and it is not Mish. If you called Tim Geithner a 'moron', for instance, I would not argue with you.
So, is there is a reason you can't pick a name? Which Anon is which? 'We'? Are you royalty or something?
I have not even commented on Mish Blog since Spring, been busy. And yes, I do agree with Mish on most issues, but when I have not, I have said so, and argued against him in the comments, and defended others who did so. If you access my past comments on Mish Blog, they do not go back very far, Mish was using a different comment system back then ('04-'08), which can't be searched.
Your comments say more about you than anything about Mish or me. Have you tried therapy?
Maybe you can start your own Blog, where you can call everyone names for fun, if that floats your boat.
The rest of us are trying to talk about trading the markets and the macro-economic situation. Do you have any positive contribution to make in that area?
Given Barrick's appalling hedging record so far, this is bearish for gold: like if Gordon Brown were buying.
Queen, sorry for the above "discussion". I don't know where "Anonymous" came from, but it sounds like he is Australian, and has a bad attitude problem. Seems like he is a few shrimp short of a full barbie. Still laughing at his comment of 11:30 AM. I will not reply to those types of comments in the future, there is no upside there. Again, sorry.
I'd say it is time to disable the "Anonymous" comments, the "tragedy of the commons" has arrived on your Blog, live.
Queen, great to hear your head injury was not severe.
Shaza- thx for stock suggestion (but I did not act on it, not trading actively now, 100% ca$h till I get back to it), keep posting, ignore the whiners.
Mugabe - Yes, a contrarian would say it is a 'Gordon Brown' moment here.
Well there is a first. I had to delete anons comments. Anon we are civil here and discussions should never involve name calling or condemning others for their opinions. I like Mish and sometimes disagree with his position, but he is no moron. I don't want to go to open ID if we can remain within the context of the post. GAW your are not responsible and only defending yourself within reason.
QueenBee, glad to hear your injuries not severe. Get well soon.
Encourage you to disable Anon commenting before ranters gather momentum. Your blog is interesting and the comments from your regulars thoughtful, focused, and on point.
The Daily Reckoning picked up this story on Barrick's as well.
http://dailyreckoning.com/a-serious-bet-on-1350-gold/
Good- one troll less.
Just had to sign in on Google (was on Open ID but now disabled!). Hence minor name change.
Just got baxk from a couple of beers: good day today trading account-wise.
By the way, PK(?) mentioned DBA (Ag comm fund). Looks like it might finally be moving off the bottom of its trend channel. Caveat emptor, as semper (always).
I mean I was out (having some beers) so had no idea how market had closed. Not that i was celebrating. otherwise it would have been shampers
What can be done when Central bankers ARe legally immune to prosecution!
"Barrick's initial defense was that if they were acting in conjunction with the central banks, they were therefore immune from prosecution since the central banks are immune from prosecution. "
I have DBA AG Fund, had it for as long as it has been around, I intend to keep it.
From Q1 Publishing:
This is on insider selling
http://www.howestreet.com/articles/index.php?article_id=10751
I don't want anyone to have to change ID's and I think he is gone now. So I have opened access again. Maybe I should us the openID option instead. What do you all think?
Do nothing, QB! Let the free market decide...let a thousand schools of thought and a hundred insults contend...
I see this over and over and I can't get over the stupidity of it. That's like the oil and gas companies betting long positions in '07. Doesn't anyone hedge? If I were a commodity producer I would be locking in a good price and be happy, but I guess that makes too much sense. CEOs get big bucks no matter how incompetent they are so I guess I'm the dumbass.
Here is some interesting stuff from James Turk on the forward march of gold. Messages from Turk are always worth waiting for, as unlike Jim Sinclair, he does not feel the need to pad out his site with news about the war in Pakistan etc, so as to encourage us gold bugs to "keep the faith, baby". Jim should just restrict himself to relevant personal anecdotes, such as his one this week about Barrick and postings from "Trader Dan" down at the COMEX.
James Turk:
http://goldmoney.com/commentary.html
and
Jim Sinclair:
http://jsmineset.com/
As I await Gaudia's big round number in the sky, swine 'flu or something just as nasty has ripped through our household this week. For example,despite me using liberal quantities alcohol based handwash the virus still found its way in (Mrs J was not at work in the hospital this week and the baby was not at nursery). So perhaps Gaudia is right, if this thing mutates into something nastier it could be (without indulging in hyperbole and drawing analogies to the "Black Death") considered to be a major event that will disrupt global commerce. The only people who will survive it will be hermits, like Gaudia himself, with their gas masks. One useful tip I would give as we approach the 'flu season in the Northern Hemisphere is to buy in a few weeks extra groceries, especially stuff that does not need too much energy and effort by those who will be preparing it of behalf of the more sick.
Calm down, there are some viruses that are far nastier than Swine Flu, with 100% death rates!...and all flus are nasty by the way! I had SWINE flu, it starts with Diarrhea for a few days and then according to your general health and pre existing conditions and risk factors it becomes either a mild or virulent version. Don't forget that as a virus mutates, it can go the other way too ie less virulent...that is what 1918 flu did as well...In the Southern Hemisphere winter more died of other Flu's than SWINE. Take each day at a time and get to an emergency room if breathing is at all affected.
Many people I spoke to down under all said the same thing, their's started with diarrhea and progressed to full on flu, but duration was shorter than most flus. Half of our town was tested positive before they gave up testing, no on died here this year of any flu in our town. Winter was actually less virulent this year from all flus. Go figure!
Our town has 5000 residents, when they gave up testing about 2 months ago when hlaf the town had it, I would say 90% or more had by the time August rolled around. A teacher friend said in our local school, no out of the ordinary absence rates for winter...our school did have one death...it was a school yard punch up that resulted in the death of a 15 year old boy from Mullumbimby, (that town also had 50% Swine Flu rate when they stopped testing) ...a nasty punch up, not a virus was a killer of that child. I hope Northern Hemisphere has a similar quiet flu season too. It would be worth asking your local media to report all flu rates and deaths not just h1n1 so you can see what the death toll from all flus is like! Otherwise, hysteria just ensues.
Shaz
Absoultely 'flu in the UK was a non event too. The Mrs is a doctor down at the local children's hospital. Over the summer they swabbed anyone coming in who they thought might have it. The number of positive results from this could have been counted on the fingers of one hand.
Without wanting to become this blog's Gaudia Ray. However if the virus does mutate into something far more aggressive there appears to be very little you can do to avoid it, bar becoming a gas mask wearing hermit.
Whereabouts are you? I am suprised that you note that your health services did not seem to come under much of a strain. This certainly was not the case for a mate who works in an ICU in Sydney.
regards
Jim
I am in Australia, Byron Bay. Byron only has 5000 people but the whole shire has 55,000.
Hospitals in Sydney had to get in heart bypass machines for several people as their entire blood volumes had to bypass lungs! That put a stress on the system, what does the Mrs/Dr say about the vaccine? How afraid should we be if there is already a vaccine waiting in the wings?
I think the worry about Swine Flu was worse than the flu, people got such a fright. Byron is a big tourist area for international travelers, we always have various viruses circulating here! I would rather hazard catching the flu than live as a hermit, esp since I am healthy, normal weight etc...my husband is type 1 diabetic, he did not get the Swine flu even though he works, travels and leads a normal life! He is way at risk, but stayed healthier than us this winter, you just never know!
PS Hendra Virus is freaking me out as we have heaps of bats and horses around where I live! Check Hendra Virus out, God forbid this thing is ever passes human to human, right now it goes bat to horses to humans. It kills horses and humans, not bats:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henipavirus#Hendra_virus
GAW, I missed the ANON thing, but ANON sounds like he indulges in logical fallacies, especially Straw Man arguments tinged with Ad Hominem fallacies as well. HE is no more than a nuisance, if he is Aussie, well, leave him out like a shag on a rock, and move on. Can you tell me what calls he told the board I made that were wrong! I missed the whole thing due to time dif. I would like the have the chance to respond. The only 100% firm call I have made is that Junk was just too risky and profits should be taken or JNK sold off...I made 2 posts on JNK...so I really do not know what to say to ANON as I do not knave the accusations in from of me!
As usual, all should do their own homework, if you follow someone over the cliff etc, it is on your shoulders! Same if you profit from any discussions, it is on your shoulders! WE discuss and post and add lots of varied links podcasts etc! You make the final call! Esp since we are all in different markets, different stages of life and different risk tolerances...trading and investing is not a one size fits all thing!
Nipah virus is also known to cause relapse encephalitis. In the initial Malaysian outbreak, a patient presented with relapse encephalitis some 53 months after his initial infection. There is no definitive treatment for Nipah encephalitis, apart from supportive measures, such as mechanical ventilation and prevention of secondary infection...
Bummer, you think you dodged a bullet and then it comes back 4 1/2 years later. Something like this will eventually wipe out a good portion of the human popualtion but I can think of quite a few ways I'd prefer to go out over encephalitis.
Shaz
The Mrs says take the vax and she even wants to give it to our 1 year old. However "Dr Crippen" thinks differently
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/sep/08/dr-crippen-swine-flu
as does the "Jobbing Dr"
http://thejobbingdoctor.blogspot.com/2009/09/what-should-i-do.html
Watch out for the funnel webs as well
regards
Jim
GaW,
Quick question. Do you ever use linear regression channels as an aid to setting limits to profit taking / taking losses? And do you have any opinion about them? Thanks.
Shaz
The Mrs would take the Vax simply because it was developed in Oz. She went to medical school in Melbourne. So she thinks anything from down under is cutting edge, just like how Relenza trumped Tamiflu.
regards
Jim
FWIW, I work in the respiratory ward at the Royal Melbourne Hospital, the largest public hospital in Australia's second-largest city, and we've had hardly any swine flu cases. (Did just have a 20-something young woman from a country town who had H1N1 and lost her foetus because of it, then developed respiratory complications, had a tracheostomy, all sorts of mess.) But overall, it's been mild this winter.
I'm not at all afraid, because I reckon I've been exposed to almost every virus out there during my 50-plus years on Earth. The scariest thought is that I patriotically lined up for the swine flu shots at my high school in the U.S. 1976, because everybody thought that was the good-citizen thing to do. It wasn't until six months later that so many people began coming down with Guillan-Barre Syndrome from the injections. I feel like I dodged a bullet on that one! (Got the shot, not the syndrome.)
As a result, I never take the flu shots offered, and if there's an innoculation programme this coming Northern Hemisphere winter (when we will have immigrated to Canada) I'm going to refuse. I'm not afraid of germs -- I work in germ city -- I'm more afraid of government efforts to prevent them. Too many stuff-ups with the preservatives, "immune system potentiators" etc.
Hey GAW -- nice to see your comments. You're another one I remember from when I started reading Mish in early 2008. Now all that Queenie needs is PFTT. I've given up on Mish's comments now. Too many hard-core Libertarian "down-with-all government and civil society" types commenting. They might get the free-for-all anarchy they want for America, but it's going to be a society like Somalia when it arrives.
Bukko
I am reluctant to take the shot after remembering how many soldiers went down with "Gulf War Syndrome"after they had their vax in preparation to chase Saddam out of Kuwait.
I agree with you about some of the recent posters on MISH. If these are the same people who you see protesting on TV about Obamacare, they do not look particularly affluent. They always seem to be dressed in artificial fibres, for example, so presumably if they lose their job or their crappy small business goes under they lose their coverage too. I think we can now reconcile ourselves into accepting that Obama is a "big business" president. So they are more the fool for not realizing that he has got to take the yoke of health cover costs off American corporations if they are to survive in their present state. No other competitors around the world I can think of are saddled with such huge additional overheads.
regards
Jim
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